Many Christians today believe that Christmas is a Christian holiday. The fact is that people have been celebrating Christmas, long before the birth of Christ. The festivity was known then, as Saturnalia. Saturnalia was a festival in which the Romans commemorated the dedication of the temple of the god Saturn. As winter approached, they were losing harvest & were in need of the sun in order for their harvest to grow & bear fruit. Saturn was the Roman god of agriculture and harvest.
This meant that the god Saturn was in need of the sun god in order to complete his job, therefore the attention was then shifted to the sun god. The Saturnalia custom is rooted in pagan & Celtic believes & traditions. They believed in human sacrifice including the sacrifice of small children & infants in which were offered to their gods in order to empower the sun to return with strength. They believed that winter was due to the sun losing its power due to a battle between the sun god & the god of the dead. Since winter is annually, they believed these battles were fought annually and thus the sacrifices had to be annually in order to appease or empower their respective gods. Because the sun always return at the beginning of the new year, they believed that its was due to all of their human sacrifices, and costum rituals that took effect; empowering their sun god to return each year victoriously.
The problem was that there was nothing in relation to Christianity concerning Saturnalia. To remedy this, these so called Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th to be Jesus’ birthday.
As part of the Saturnalia carnival throughout the 18th and 19th centuries CE, rabbis of the poor places in Rome were forced to wear clown type of clothing and march through the city streets to the mocking of the crowd, heavely rained by a variety of missiles. When the Jewish community of Rome sent a petition in1836 to Pope Gregory XVI begging him to stop the annual Saturnalia abuse of the Jewish community, he responded, “It is not opportune to make any innovation. On December 25, 1881, Christian leaders whipped the Polish masses into Antisemitic frenzies that led to riots across the country. In Warsaw 12 Jews were brutally murdered, huge numbers were disable or disfigured, and many Jewish women were raped. Two million rubles worth of property was destroyed. Some foundation for a holyday they like to call “Christian”.
Today, the same formula its being used when it comes to repackaging pagan practices and doctrines by just renaming them and giving them a “Christian” name. For instance, Rock & Roll music; So called Christian leaders believe a worldly or pagan person can join a Christian church with out having to leave their worldly Rock & Roll behind, because they can find Rock & Roll in the church too, “Christian Rock & Roll” that is! This is now offered by so called Christian churches today, supposedly to attract and convert the worldly.
The list goes on and on, from Rock, to “Christian Rock”, to Yoga, to “Christian Yoga”, to porn, to “Christian porn”; That’s right… They now even have porn with the name “Christian” before it. These are a few of many traps laid to the undiscerning, designed to lead him into the wrong path, the one that does not lead to heaven, but to death & destruction.
Although this is a different story, the method in which Satan operates, is exactly the same. The Roman Catholic church then, was not concerned with people’s souls, but rather with their contributions to their church. Today, nothing has changed!
The fact is that the bible (The Word of God) is our ultimate measurement authority in which all things should be measured by. With that said, let’s examine the origins of Christmas and lets use the bible as the final authority on this matter as it should be in all matters. After its all said and done, I want you to ask yourself if you as a Christian, should be celebrating “Christmas”.
Also, keep in mind that once a truth is revealed to you, ignorance cannot be used as an excused to continue in a sinful practice, because God will judge us in accordance to the knowledge we have received. Prove of this can be found on John 9:40- 41: “And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? Jesus said unto them,
Also keep in mind Hosea 4:6: My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were recruited by the Church sanctioning “Christmas Trees Pagans had long worshipped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Catholic Church. Jerimiah 10:3 says: “For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not”
B. Mistletoe
Norse mythology recounts how the god Balder was killed using a mistletoe arrow by his rival god Hoder while fighting for the female Nanna. Druid rituals use mistletoe to poison their human sacrificial victim. The Christian custom of “kissing under the mistletoe” is a later synthesis of the sexual license of Saturnalia with the Druidic sacrificial cult.
C. Christmas Presents
In pre-Christian Rome, the emperors compelled their most despised citizens to bring offerings and gifts during the Saturnalia (in December) and Kalends (in January). Later, this ritual expanded to include gift-giving among the general populace. The Catholic Church gave this custom a Christian flavor by re-rooting it in the supposed gift-giving of Saint Nicholas (see below).
“A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit” Matthew 7:18
And now you know the root of Christmas and whether it should be celebrated by bible believing Christians or not. You decide to follow God or not.
Conclusion:
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Joshua 24:15 (KJV)
click on the image above to read about the meaning of the word “Christmas’.
Watch video: “Happy Hellidays: The Evil Deep Roots of Christmas”:
Tags: Church gone astray, pagan practices, paganism in the church, Real roots of Christmas, Saturnalia, the occult practices of Christmas, wicca in Christmas
January 19, 2010 at 5:39 pm |
[…] The Truth Behind False Virgin Birth ReligionsThe Restrainer Before The Antichrist Kingdom.Saturnalia: The Real Roots of ChristmasChristmas in 30 seconds (give or take a […]
February 13, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
I argued with people about celebrating Christmas! I argued with people about keeping Christ in Christmas! After researching this, I realize He never was in it to begin with! I am blown away by this information! I thought I was celebrating the birth of a Savior! Instead, I was helping the enemy to spread paganism! No wonder I never have any $$ for gifts at that time of year!
May 27, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
[…] occasionally has its spillways, too, when bishops wink at folkways and convert Saturnalia into Christmas, Tonanzin into the Lady of Guadalupe, and the gods of polytheism into angels, […]
December 19, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
Thank you for having the fortitude to speak the truth and provide biblical references to support your findings. I just shared your article on Facebook and have no doubt that I will have less friends because of it. I stopped celebrating Christmas as a young mother because I did not see Christ in the holiday. I guess it is always good to follow your first instincts.
December 19, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
Thank you & welcome to the few, the chosen, the remnant of God, which way is narrow. God bless!!!
December 14, 2014 at 5:51 pm |
Tracy Songbird Ruffin, I am just like you, or I feel that I have the same opinion as you: I don’t celebrate Christmas, I have taught my children and my grandchildren, although some of them like to celebrate, it is anti Christ to me! I dread this time every year….we must pray for those that are still blinded by this pagan holiday.
December 21, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
Yes i know. its been done by the babylonians too.. Nimrod birthday is Dec, 25 and Tammuz was born Dec. 25. Really the ancient cultures personified the cosmos with human,animal,and earthly attributes. Christmas is really about the Sun lowest progression of sunlight in relation to the north hemisphere on earth.. on Dec 22 – 24 the sunlight is at its lowest amount .becuz it appears that the Sun has not moved in its position and is located by a celestrial body that look like a cross, the sun has died on the cross. On December 25 the Sun moves up 1 degree and this the birth of a new Sun and ressurection from death.. So in truth its about the processes of our solar system and how it affect us human on earth.. Kheper!!!!
December 25, 2011 at 9:36 am |
Spoilsport! Once you know the true meaning of Christmas you can never go back. But hey, I’ve saved hours by not putting up a tree not feeling the pressure to buy gifts is fabulous. Why not give gifts throughout the year when the heart yearns to do so?
We don’t need no stinkin’ Christmas.
November 27, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
Amen brother! God brought this Truth to my husband a couple of years ago and we no longer celebrate Christmas. We too have attempted to share the info with other Believers and have been met with rejection. Sigh! I guess it is a sign of the times and I pray they too will come to realize we must not love anything above Jesus. If we can’t give up a simple tradition for Him, it makes you wonder if we really belong to Him. ❤ Peace!
November 28, 2012 at 11:18 am |
That’s a good point that many professing Christians don’t bother to ask themselves. I don’t know about others, but I feel great to be free of the bond of having to be stressed out and out of money just to keep up with an ungodly tradition, which happens to be the highest rank of holiday in witchcraft and satanism.
Jesus in facts sets us free!
November 28, 2012 at 10:08 am |
Christmas will be about whatever is in one’s heart, mind, soul, and strength. It can be a ‘tradition of men’ or a recognition of personally being born again from above. Not recognize that unto us a child is born, a Savior is given who is Christ the Lord? No one knows the exact day of His Birth anyway. Do we suggest not helping the poor and the homeless on the day the rest of the world is out there having a good time and they suffer miserably? It’s not the day that is the issue, it’s what one makes of it. What’s next, I should not be happy on more fleshy day of birth since that was the day I entered a sinful world, born to be a sinner?
November 28, 2012 at 11:15 am |
I’m not sure whether you are a christian or not, and if you’re not, then this Holiday is definitely for you.
But if you call yourself a christian, then ask yourself what part of James 4:4 “friendship of the world is enmity with god”, you don’t understand?
Or what part of do not have any fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, (but rather reproof them) you don’t understand?
You seem to be justifying ungodly practices and traditions, rather than reproving them as I am doing.
To compromise is to settle the differences between the godly and the ungodly. The bible asks in 2 Corinthians 6:14
what fellowship has light with darkness? And the answer of course is none!
December 5, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
I’m not really sure what your point is here, since everything we do in our everyday lives is a result of pagan history, like it or not. The way in which we conduct the government we live under is a direct result of the Romans. How do you justify that fact with the harsh, idolic, tyranny that the Romans practiced? The other problem I have with your argument is that Jesus told us to go out into the world. You want to shut yourself in a room with things labeled as “righteous”, not even caring about what’s in a person’s heart forgetting the balance that comes with Christianity. Yes, we are to be apart form the darkness. But didn’t Paul also say in 1 Corinthians 10 that everything is permissible? In verses 27-30 he talked about how a Christian CAN participate in pagan feasts as long as the thing being offered wasn’t specifically killed on an alter to worship a demon. SO we can participate in Christmas.
“If I take part in a meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced for something I thank God for?” (vs. 30)
In God’s eyes intentions are everything. If we participate in Christmas with an understanding that we are giving thanks to God above for Christ’s life on earth and all the blessings He has given us then there is nothing wrong with it.
April 30, 2016 at 6:59 pm |
Liken what you said with this analogy:
We all going to die, are we therefore should be looking for death?
The same way with paganism, although is true paganism is embedded in many things is our lives shall we now purposely give in to it, or avoid it as mush as we can the same way we avoid death?
December 10, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
True enough that the origin of Christmas celebration is a dark one and that Jesus was not born in Dec. However Jesus was born and the angels did proclaim his birth so obviously it was a momentous occasion in heaven. I choose to celebrate the day ad give thanks to God for becoming flesh to live and die so that I may be found righteous in his eyes. To quote Downhere
“How many kings step down from their thrones?
How many lords have abandoned their homes?
How many greats have become the least for me?
And how many gods have poured out their hearts
To romance a world that is torn all apart
How many fathers gave up their sons for me?”
How can I not take a day to honor Him for that. And if you are offended by the commercialism why not volunteer your time to help the needy. That would be truly honoring to our Lord and Savior Matthew 25:35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, Which is a much better use of your time rather than condemning ppl who disagree with you
April 30, 2016 at 6:55 pm |
The only condemning is done in the scriptures. God says not to mix the holy and the unholy, He also said not to conform to the things of this world and not to take part of it. He who loves the world does not have the love of the father in him. The Scriptures further says, that he who is a friend of the world is an enemy of God. Now tell me, who is condemning you, me or the Scriptures?
December 15, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
There are as many real Christians as there are real Muslims, real Buddhists or anything else real in the religious sense of the word,
Look at the catholic church with child abuse and inquisitions for hundreds of years.
Buddhists with their golden temples and gold plated Buddhas – people living in misery next door and sell their daughters into prostitution.
Muslims taking the inner fight to overcome lower carnal instincts outside and into the streets of their own people and blow them up.
“Religion ist Opium fürs Volk ”
Karl Marx
Which means Religious is Opium for the people.
Meaning it clouds the perception – actions are nonrational and thoughts are infiltrated by fear or hope for reward for a certain action or behavior.
The Celts celebrated the 24th as the return of the light, because in the Northern hemisphere the days get longer from that date on and the darkness will be conquered finally by the light.
December 17, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
I am so convicted and heart broken by this. I always knew that christmas was not Jesus’ birthday, but I always thought that if I was honoring the birth of Jesus in my heart that it was ok. I don’t think it’s ok. I am going to have to put some serious prayer time in about this. My predicament is that my husband and all of my family are not born again believers. If I start shouting from the rooftops that christmas is satanic I don’t know what type of reaction I am going to get. It does sound like I am fearing man rather than God, but my main concern my whole christian life is to lead my family to Christ. Will me outing christmas lead my family to the knowledge of Christ? I don’t know…I am going to pray, pray, and pray some more. Will you please pray for me to gain wisdom from the Lord about this situation? I believe this article to be true and my deepest desire is to do the right thing and to please the Lord. Thank you ❤
November 12, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
jbert73 ..There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus. Idols are nothing. Christ reigns supreme and looks upon the heart. Do not let someone else put you under condemnation.
April 30, 2016 at 6:52 pm
If that’s true, then obey what he says and stop making excuses to please yourself.
December 17, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
Thanks, I don’t mind people using my information as long as the truth is being spread.
December 14, 2014 at 6:01 pm |
Thanks David1057, you have helped to open my eyes even more and I have been a Christian for 69 years and counting….God bless you!
December 17, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
[…] people in the false church assemblies (daughters of Babylon) hear and understand that these days (Christmas a.k.a. Saturnalia) are pagan, they do not run from the practice in the fear of Yah. One may hear them make excuses […]
December 21, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
The traditions of Saturnalia in today’s world do not exist. There are a lot of people who doesn’t know the history. We Christians choose to take a pagan holiday and turn it into a Holy Day. Does this not make us Christian? We do not follow the customs or traditions of Saturnalia. If we celebrated Christmas on any other day, that would be fine? I feel as not only a christian but a faithful practicing christian that if the Lord did not want me to celebrate his birth on this day he would relay it to me. To take something that came from Satan and turn into something that comes from God has to be good and i’m sure Satan hates that we have stolen some of his power. Which is why so many people feel overwhelmed and stressed on Christmas but if they allow Satan to operate like that than they have lost what makes Christmas Holy…Christ. Satan for years has possessed people in leadership to remove Christ from Christmas and that is sad, As for me I celebrate the Birth, not the pagan holiday or Santa Clause but the birth of Christ how gave his life to take away our sins.
December 21, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
Little do you know that they do exist and continue to be celebrated in the occult today, while you paralleling celebrate their “holiday” with a Christian flavor which is UnBiblical.
Show me in the Scriptures where it says a bad tree produces good fruit and I show you where it says otherwise!
Now, you don’t need to justify “Christmas” with me nor with anyone else. If you want to continue celebrating things that are not of God, nor from His origins, that’s between you & God.
December 21, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
Sandra – Christians did not choose to make Saturnalia about Jesus. Rome decided to incorporate Jesus into their holiday in an attempt to gain control over the growing Christian movement of the day. By continuing to celebrate the birth of the savior during winter solstice we are basically agreeing that all the past events associated with the same are okay.
You stated, “I feel as not only a christian but a faithful practicing christian that if the Lord did not want me to celebrate his birth on this day he would relay it to me.” — God speaks to us through his people so perhaps He is giving you this information now. When I first heard about this I had the same reaction as you. I had celebrated Christmas all my life and didn’t want to think I had done anything displeasing to God. But that was pride. I prayed about it and searched the Word and was given confirmation.
We are told to separate ourselves from the world and to not be a part of it. That the world will hate us for Him. I can’t tell you the back lash my husband and I have received simply because we choose not to participate. I mean, name calling by “Christians.” Yep – they hate us for trying to honor God in a way we feel He has shown us.
In the old testament people were literally worshipping trees and God became agry and told them to stop doing it. That should give us a hint about how He feels with decorating a tree in our home. Also, there isn’t a place in scripture where we are told to celebrate the birth of Christ. We ARE told to observe the passover and to remember Him in the process.
Ultimately, you can do whatever you like and it’s between you and God. I would encourage you to pray about it and seek answers in the Word. Peace be with you!
December 21, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
goes to prove the flaws of Christian Church as a whole and moreover the Vatican
December 24, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
I Consider celebrating Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Valentines’ day, etc. to be the “sin of Jeraboam”. God established 7 Appointed Times – festivals – I don’t do any others that aren’t Biblical. We don’t get to make our own festivals and call them “Christian” and the fact that they are of pagan origin makes it worse – like mocking God, or spitting in His face. The same goes for making up our own traditions of worship, when God has already told us when and how He is to be worshipped. We are so arrogant, usurping God’s authority. Is there no fear of God even among Christians?
March 14, 2013 at 7:41 am |
[…] The December 25th HoaxTry this link and find out why you should not keep this day to Christ, Its Mithra's birthday. Learn about St.Nicolas the first Santa Claus. […]
November 25, 2013 at 4:18 am |
This is wonderful information and something all who believe in Christ should read. I actually had heard of this already, from different(pagan) religions celebrating their traditions. I searched it out and I was so disappointed with the Church for not having told me the truth! I no longer celebrate Christmas or Easter, only the Biblical holidays and they’re a wonderful blessing!
December 6, 2013 at 1:55 pm |
We dont need no damn christmas
December 10, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
[…] are woven together at the winter solstice time. We have a food and drink festival that imitates Saturnalia and a birthday the resembles the birth of Mithra. I believe I have inherited some feelings for […]
December 17, 2013 at 6:43 pm |
This is a wonderful forum for providing very valuable information for Christians who do not know about the “hoax of Christmas!” Summarizing for those who still have not understood – Christmas is not a Christian holiday! It is a Catholic holiday, totally made up and promoted by the Roman Caesars (the early popes!) However, a word of caution to unsuspecting Christians who think they should be observing so-called “Biblical holidays” described in the Old Testament – those holy days were instituted by God ONLY for the Israelites, so they would always remember what God did for them. When Jesus brought a New Covenant to earth, it went into effect with His death. The Old Law, the Law of Moses, that was brought ONLY to the Israelites, was “put away” (Hebrews 8:13), and replaced by a “better covenant, a better High Priest, a better law, a better sacrifice, a better faith. “So I pray that God, who gives you hope, will keep you happy and full of peace as you believe in Him. May you overflow with hope through the power of the Holy Spirit.
December 19, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
Where do I start? it is December 19, 2013 and today I was on the bus to work and I took my bible and prayed before starting to read it and proceeded to put on the light on the bus but it was not working ( I thought here is the Devil trying to prevent me from reading my bible)so I decided to use my phone to listen to a sermon or some gospel. Yesterday I googled origin of Christmas but never had time to read anything so I though about that and started reading this page and others and I can tell you that I am blown away, the truth is in front of us and in the bible but we cling to traditions and beliefs.I think it is very true that Christmas is an invention.I am lucky enough that my husband think the same way so we need to find ways in which to raise our kids with truths and not lies about Christmas.Our kids go a catholic school so I’m really worried.Other people that have done this and gone against the “system” please help on how we can achieve this.This is a big one!!! I can see family members saying we are crazy and thinking we are part of a cult or something when we have been going to the same church for years. I refuse to be fed lies when I know better now and .I do not want on Judgement day to have conformed to society, men and not God.
keep sharing truths about the lies about God
December 14, 2014 at 5:52 pm |
Amen, I concur with you, I am a seeker of truth, God’s truth.
January 4, 2014 at 6:02 pm |
I am currently doing a in depth study on religion vrs relationship and thus it has led me to your page. Now I am not commenting to judge, criticize or even condemn -I do so to offer some of what I have learned & to learn from you as well. I agree with some of what your page says – & I am not saying I don’t agree with the rest- I am trying to get better understanding. Because you used a lot of the old testament verses to back up what you believe ( I know you didn’t just use old please let me finish ) it looked like you used more from the old then the new. That is what has prompted my comment because we are no longer under the law which actually has 613 thou shall nots including then 10 commandments. The old covenant is very useful and we need it because it teaches us patience, comfort & offers hope. It shows us God blesses the faithful. It shows us Gods goodness, his power. There is enormous amount of wisdom in the Old covenant. Without the law or old covenant we wouldn’t have know of what “sin” is. The old covenant cannot be understood without the new. BUT the old is been done away with- we are no longer under it- Colossians 2:14 “blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us , which contrary to us, and took it out of the way, NAILING IT TO THE CROSS.” For us to be seeking salvation or living by the old covenant would be sin as well. The new covenant is for ALL the world, all nations. Mathew 28:18-20 Mark 16:15-20 Acts 2:39 the old was nailed to the cross Mathew 5:17,18 Colossians 2:14 (which I wrote above) Ephesians 2:14-19 Hebrews 7:18.
I agree that the TRUE meaning of Christmas has gotten LOST – however I don’t believe we as believers are NOT to acknowledge this day- truth is no one knows the actual day Christ was born- but we can take what was made for evil and turn it for good. I think we as believers -sitting back, watching and condemning others for celebrating Christmas is a sin in itself. AS a believer we can take this day and stand up and say this day will be acknowledge BUT as JESUS birthday NOT for the worlds version of it. and I have a lot of trouble understanding anyone still living by the old covenant because to me- your completely ignoring what Jesus DIED for.
A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. That is the commandment in which we are to live by- so are we when we judge others and their celebrations ?? Or are we by not at least standing up and speaking of the birth of Christ. If the world chose 12-25 -so be it! We as Christians can use it for the real meaning — we cant sit back and judge and condemn especially we ourselves are not without sin. Sin is sin- no one greater than another. We don’t go to hell because we sin we go because we deny Jesus. So I ask you to consider my thoughts and I welcome anything you have to say to my comment and please understand I am in study and just revealing what was revealed to me. asklilmama.com
January 4, 2014 at 7:27 pm |
Thanks for your comment.
we know that we are not under the Law and none of the verses used in this article have anything to do with the Leviticus Law, but rather with righteousness. For example, God tells us in the Old Testament thou shall not kill. Old Testament or not, its a matter of righteousness not a matter of keeping the Leviticus Law which was made out of constant works and rituals that had to be done in the temple for the redeeming of sins.
Having said that, let’s move on to the New Testament. Today, we don’t have to offer bulls, calves, and lambs each time we sin because we are not under the Leviticus Law which demanded these things to be done for the redeeming of our sins.
We are now free from doing these works and we are in liberty of not having to do them thanks to the ultimate sacrifice found in Christ Jesus. However, being free from the Leviticus Law does not equal to liberty to sin as we wish. If we sin as we wish knowing that we will find forgiveness in Christ Jesus is like crucifying Jesus all over again.
And I’m talking about willful sinning not sinning out of sinful human nature, but rather making conscious decisions to participate in the unfruitful works of darkness.
we cannot take something bad and “make it good”, only God has the power to do that within situations not within ungodly rituals and traditions. instead we are told by Jesus in Scripture that a bad tree cannot bear good fruit and Vice versa.
The Word “Christmas” it self has bad connotations.
The Word is compose of Christ and mas as in Catholic “mass”.
The word mass comes from the Latin word “misa” which is a “funeristic” word which means to dismiss as when a person dies and a mass service its done to “dismissed” the person who die.
Saying merry Christmas = saying “happy death of Christ”. – The World is indeed happy that Christ died both physically and in their hearts. The world hates Jesus and thus would never celebrate his birth, nor live, nor resurrection. The only reason that Christians now participate in this abomination helliday its because the Roman Catholic Church “Christianized” it in order to capitalized from the Christians spiritually and monetary.
I think we should concentrate more in the real Holly days that Jesus asked us to celebrate rather than celebrate the traditions of men. We cannot separate bitter from sweet when they are mixed into the same cup.
Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils. 1 Corinthians 10:21.
If we are asked to be separated from the world, then why would we celebrate what they celebrate when they celebrate it?
Defenders of Christmas may say, oh no they might celebrate one thing, but I celebrate the birth of Christ.
First of all Jesus never asked us to celebrate his birthday, but if some want to go ahead and celebrate it why does it have to be on an appointed day and time created and dictated by the enemy?
(Remember how Jesus never heeded to Satan’s suggestions when he was tempted?)
I would say, rebelled against the world system who is our enemy and celebrate nothing they ask you to celebrate, rather than rebelling against Jesus and celebrating things he never ask us to celebrate and participate in.
I’m not saying we should not get together with loved ones, we should always do that, but we should not be caught up in the whole system of Christmas that has nothing to do with Christ.
We cannot teach be holy and at the same time, tell God’s people its OK to get involved in the world’s traditions as long as your conscience permitted. That’s not what Paul meant with “let every one be persuaded in his own mind.” Do you know how many weak Christians out there would allow they conscience to do things contrary to the Word of God by justifying it in their own minds?
Paul was talking to Christians who were esteeming days from the Old testament “godly days” not pagan days that was the legalism about it, days from the Law.
Asking a fellow Christian to be holy and separated from the world its not “legalism” but Scriptural.
If Paul actually meant that statement in general the way some it, then we cannot evangelize the world because they will deny Jesus saying that its not necessary to accept him for salvation and they will add “let every one be persuaded in his own mind.” And That would be the end of it right there.
Let’s try to do what Jesus asked us to do and not what he did not asked us to do.
January 4, 2014 at 10:57 pm |
If I am a spirit filled born again Christian so God lives in me. I am nothing without him and can do nothing without him. And I agree 100% on the worlds version of Christmas – it has gotten out of control. However turning something evil into good- yes that is something God does–THRU US as believers. We are not to judge anyone because NO ONE is without sin- NO ONE. I know we cant live how we want and sin and ask forgiveness – we are to strive to be as Christ like as possible and the commandment that we are to live by is “to love one another as I have loved you” if we all concentrated on that verse alone- the world would be a better place. We are saved by Grace not works. We can spend all day long -you & I about this scripture or that scripture kind of like the game battleship- or I personally had rather play operation and do my best to “love one another as He loved us” we did nothing to deserve his love and we are to love those that don’t deserve it just like we don’t deserve what Jesus did. I don’t mean we are to part take in the “worlds traditions” but instead of judging them and condemning them we could try and take what is evil and turn it for good– and God can do so thru HIS PEOPLE. Thank you for your comment I am learning much funny thing about each study I do it always comes back to John 3:16 and John 13:34 …. I think we all spend to much on the negative instead of the positive. I can give you scripture of what I think is wrong and you can do the same with me- like I said we can do that all day long— I am not trying to convince anyone else and their beliefs I am just commenting for better understanding and because I was led to. thanks again for you reply.
January 5, 2014 at 7:22 am |
It is the bible who judges sin, not me since I’m pointing to what the scriptures say. And how can you say Christmas has now gotten out of control when it began as an orgy of crime to the god Saturn and supposedly also (according to you) its now a “good holiday”?
According to the way you sound, I believe you to be an ecumenical one world church, broad its the way type of Christian.
“We need to focus on the positive” Sounds like the Pope & new age theology..
If we focus on the positive, we will never get to fixed the negative and all the messed up aspects of our lives.
(Hypothetically speaking)
Try applying that to a doctor who just found a sickness on you who needs to focus on it in order to heal it; and try telling him to focus instead on the rest of the body parts that are not sick. I can assure you he will label you mentally unstable and would perhaps attribute that to the same sickness he just found.
Jesus said:
They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
(Mark 2:17 KJV)
Calling out people to repentance its not “judging” its what Jesus did, his apostles, the early Church, and what we should be doing as followers of Jesus.
If you have other plans, that’s your prerogative, but don’t justify the wicked with the Holy, say its OK. Also, know this; that the whole world its spirit filled.
We just need to know the Scriptures in order to test the spirits to see if they are from God. (1 John 4:1 KJV)
Many are not, for if they were, the world would have already been a better place; and we’re going from bad to worse.
January 4, 2014 at 11:05 pm |
Ps where are you from if you don’t mind me asking? I asked because my reply said I replied at 6:02 PM and it was 12 noon when I commented. so I was just curious.
January 5, 2014 at 7:23 am |
I’m currently in eastern Europe.
January 6, 2014 at 4:49 am |
Like I stated in a previous comment we can do this “battleship” with scripture all day long. I am not commenting to do that but to get better understanding and if you are using ( & you did) old scripture from the bible to point out sin – you are in fact in sin yourself. I also stated earlier that I learned a few things from your page like the orgies and other such things, however in my 42 years on this earth I have never witnessed such. I never said it was a “good” holiday – you keep putting words in my mouth I simply said anything that is meant for harm can be and God will use for our good. I was referring to it being out of control by trying to take Christ out of it-now I know thanks to your page He was never in it to begin with. You will not fix anything if all you are doing is pointing out where EVERYONE ELSE is messing up- We should all work on our own lives and if we did that we would not have time to point out what is wrong in everyone else. No one is without sin- NO ONE. I do not do “hypothetically” I do facts. We are to be Christ like we are not Jesus. “my prerogative was to try and learn something but this will be my last comment. I have in no way justified anything wicked – again putting words in my mouth. God is in control – I know that – I also know everything that is happening is supposed to. We are to “love one another as He loved us” You yourself said ” I am not saying you don’t spend time with family you should” so obviously you acknowledge this day somehow. The way to reach others is thru love NOT pointing out where they are screwed up. I am well aware I am still learning and will till my time is up – Jesus cares more about how we are treating each other more than anything else. I am a fellow believer and you tell me “its my prerogative” which tells me you could care less about me having better understanding and I am a fellow believer – is that what Jesus would do? Oh as far as the word “church” I guess that depends on your definition — BUT the original bible the word church was not even in it- it actually means “Call out” or ” called out ones” I am a non denominational Child of God still in training, so thank you for your “input” and again sorry to have bothered you I will comment no more.
January 6, 2014 at 5:54 am |
And like I stated before, sin is sin whether be in the Old testament or New Testament. Also like I previously stated before, I’m not talking about sin from the Leviticus Law but about sins of unrighteousness. Sins of the Leviticus Laws consist of eating pork and other unclean animals, not keeping the sabbath, etc. Those are from the OT Law. Now sins of unrighteousness are killing, lying, disobedience to God, etc. Those sins are from the Law that God has written in our hearts not to do.
You can justify your sins all you want with me, but since your theology is new age in doctrine, it will not stand before a Holy perfect, righteous God.
January 6, 2014 at 4:04 pm
the Puritians outlawed Christmas back in America. The only thing you can do was a church service. recently 119 ministries felt they had to remaster their video “Sunburned” to remove commentary they used from Charles Spurgeon when they discover he held church services. bear in mind these folks hated the pagan trappings. the question is wrong to have a church service on the date itself? can any worship to the Savior is even allowed!
January 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm |
Mathew 5:30, Mathew 18:8 , Mathew 5:28 , Mathew 5:48 Mathew 19:21 have you kept all of these scriptures? has your hand ever sinned? has your feet ever led to sin? have your eyes ever looked at another woman and you had impure thoughts (don’t know a man alive that can do that one) Have you sold everything you own? I am not in no way justifying anything – I am giving you scripture how is that new age doctrine it is in the Bible! You need to read Romans Starting in chapter 2 all the way to chapter 6. I tried upload pictures of it all but it wont let me. As a fellow believer I had to comment one last time, because as you say it is the bible pointing these things out. I know without a doubt I am going to Heaven – you just might be my neighbor so shouldn’t we all try and get along while here – we mind as well because we will have eternity together. The only sin that is not forgivable is the blaspheme of the Holy Ghost – anything else is forgivable IF they truly repent and God and only God knows the heart of each and every believer. I was trying to gain understanding and all you have done is put me down, put words in my mouth and tell me whatever its my “prerogative” — That does not at all sound like what Jesus would do. I have no hard feelings nor ill will I just wanted to clarify my words because you keep saying things I didn’t say. I apologize if I have offended you or said anything that you don’t agree with- all I have said is in the bible. I will continue on my study and pray for revelation for us both. Thank you again for you time and God Bless!
January 6, 2014 at 7:11 pm |
When we sin we must repent from that sin, turn our backs to those things that displeases God and turn towards God. That’s true repentance.
Does that mean that because God forgives our sins we must therefore willingly sin against Him to then telling him I’m sorry and consider our sorrow’s as repentance to receive forgiveness?
Having a sinful nature should be no excused to willingly sin or partake in the unfruitful works of darkness. There’s such thing as sinning out of imperfection due to the fall of man and thus this sinful nature becoming a stumbling block with our walk with Christ.
However, if you cannot tell the difference between sinning because a bad thought entered your mind, a bad word slipped out of your mouth, or because you fell into temptation, Vs willingly and consciously making decisions that displeases God, then you need to examine yourself.
Jesus came to save us from our sins (When we repent from them) not to save us with our sins and have no repentance.
Believe now or regret it for an eternity.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NEW TESTAMENT BY THE WAY)
King James Version (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Does this sound like a God who allows unrepentant people into his Kingdom?
January 7, 2014 at 4:51 pm |
I managed to read most of the comments here. It is quite clear that most of the responses now regard the origin of the 25th Dec date as something quite different to what they were led to believe.
It is fact and can be seen, that the earths axial tilt comes to rest at it’s lowest point around 21/22 Dec (N. Hemisphere). There it rests, and then on the 3rd day (24/25 Dec) it is reborn again. Anyone who lives on a coastline is able to watch the sun move along the horizon 180 days until setting around 21/22 June, then on the morning of the 3rd day beginning it’s 180 day journey back to it’s start point, then on the 3rd day after 21/22 Dec, starting again. This is a 365 day cycle.
I am concerned that there are a number of comments that, although they appreciate the untruth of Xmas, they continue to relate the true origins as being pagan, satanic or sinful.
Has it not occurred to each of you, that you are all guilty of the greatest sin.
The word ‘Sin’ was incorporated into the English language bible for twofold reasons. First, it was used in place of the many different words used in original texts to describe different variants of transgressions. In the first instance the word Sin was chosen because it’s Hebrew root means ‘ to miss the mark’ . This is why I state you have Sinned. !
Second, the word Sin also indicates a belief in the Moon deity of the Ancients.
When the Bible was constructed for a Roman readership in Britain, certain words, concepts and myths had to be incorporated to catch their attention.
Naturally, …a solar cult, presented as a Son cult needed an adversary, and what better ‘Satan’ for the Son (sun) than the Moon.!
You have to understand that all your perceptions about the words ‘sin’, ‘pagan’ and ‘satan’, come from the very same political power house that bought you the Xmas tradition.
There has been mention of trees and bad apples etc.
The tree that has produced the bad apples of Xmas tradition is also the tree in which the production of the bible rests.
I’ll leave that thread now, I have to follow up on the ‘Missa’/ Mass reference.
David, your explanation is only partly correct. The word Mass, does indeed stem from the Latin word ‘Missa’ and it is a word meaning ‘Dismissal’. This is as far as correct as you got.
The Church of Rome uses the word Mass because it is part of the phrase
‘Ite Missa Est’ , traditionally the last phrase said at it’s gatherings ( when said in Latin)
The is a phrase similar to that which all military forces worldwide use when dismissing troops from the parade ground.
Literally, it means ‘Go, this is the Dismissal ‘. We now hear it as ‘Troop Dismissed’, dependant upon which language is used.
Do the research, you will find that Roman Centurions with the laborum insignia on their breastplates used this phrase after regular meetings that involved offerings to Sol, and rhetoric for the task ahead.
For those that don’t know the laborum I refer to, it is widely used now as the Chi Rho symbol on alters and priest’s tunics.
There is far more to this than the ‘truth’ about Xmas.
Strap yourselves in, it’s about to get bumpy.
January 15, 2014 at 4:08 am |
I will be doing a bible study on this topic later this week. As important as this topic is, i cant help to wonder what christ himself would say if i asked “lord what do you say we should do about this tradition?” And i imagine his response would be against it. I also cant help but to wonder what else he would say. Maybe something about if ive loved my neighbors as ive loved myself.
March 19, 2014 at 2:29 am |
First off I’m only 16, but, about changing things for good, why can’t we change Christmas from what it stands for to something better? “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” from what you say, we’re just supposed to sit back and watch them do all their worldly things. Who said anything about sitting back? It’s a spiritual war, not a spiritual television program. What I’m saying is just because something seems bad, doesn’t mean it will always be bad. Take a sickness. Say your father gets cancer. Doctors say he has 3 weeks to live. After a lot a prayer, God decides to heal your father because he knows it will bring the medical team to Him. Are you supposed to sit back because they’re worldly and say “wow I don’t know how that happened, well I can’t talk anymore. We are supposed to separate ourselves from the world.” You totally just lost someone you could have saved. Imagine what could happen if we could continue being a living testimony in this world without changing how we live with others as the ancient Christians did? We could be unstoppable. Instead some of us (such as yourself) choose to be passive. “If they bring judgement upon themselves, so be it I’m living right on my own” just think about it. If you don’t take back what was evil what’s the point of a battle?
April 30, 2016 at 6:47 pm |
We don’t have the authority to Christianize something that means evil in the sight of God. You may see things one way, but God sees it another. What matters here is what he thinks and not what we want or what we think. How would you like it if your girlfriend celebrates your birthday on the birthday of someone you despise? Not cool.
April 2, 2014 at 12:59 am |
Reblogged this on ?verything!.
November 26, 2014 at 6:02 pm |
Reblogged this on Clairsentient1.
December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm |
Reblogged this on My Blog and commented:
It is that same time again, when the evil shenanigans of Lucifer are present everywhere….I DO NOT celebrate Christmas, and here are the reasons why!
December 16, 2014 at 1:45 am |
Once the truth is known a new problem begins belief in Jesus Christ gets furthered and atheism becomes real for the disappointed
February 13, 2016 at 4:25 am
TRUTH will rise…one person at a time! Thanks for your reply Christopher!
December 22, 2014 at 2:41 am |
Why is it wrong for Christians to make it their own with what they want it to be regardless of the origins? —-coming from someone who does not celebrate it by choice with these things being a big part of it.
December 22, 2014 at 8:59 am |
The bible tells us what its wrong. If you are a Christian then you need to read your bible and live it because that’s what being a true Christian its all about.
December 22, 2014 at 3:12 pm
Some churches do admit the pagan origin but it’s justified by quoting Luke and Matthew the excitement of the birth. Even far as declaring a conquest of the calender date as a replacement of even as they acknowledge not the birth date. So folks go home fine with that explanation. Those who Don’t celebrate get a list of endless gods with same birthday. Later the issue about the census comes up. There’s no evidence so atheism presents its case then the individual ends up celebrating solstice. Where’s the fruit?
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:59:37 +0000 To: brooke99.mchsi.com@hotmail.com
December 24, 2014 at 6:43 am
Thanks for the incredibly informative answer David1057…smh
December 24, 2015 at 6:53 am |
[…] In pre-Christian Rome, the emperors compelled their most despised citizens to bring offerings and gifts during the Saturnalia (in December) and Kalends (in January). Later, this ritual expanded to include gift-giving among the general populace. The Catholic Church gave this custom a Christian flavor by re-rooting it in the supposed gift-giving of Saint Nicholas Read more from […]
December 25, 2015 at 3:05 pm |
[…] https://thetruthandlight.wordpress.com/2008/12/25/saturnalia-the-real-roots-of-christmas/ […]
December 29, 2015 at 7:11 am |
[…] of Christmas, Christmas Customs, Origin of Christmas, Christmas History, Santa Claus, Saturnalia and the Roots of Christmas, St. Nicholas origin of Santa and A Pictorial History of Santa […]
February 24, 2016 at 12:19 am |
[…] https://thetruthandlight.wordpress.com/2008/12/25/saturnalia-the-real-roots-of-christmas/ […]
June 10, 2016 at 11:14 am |
Great article. Thinking of the pagan traditions of Christmas brings to mind Paul’s warning in 1 Corinthians 10:21,22: “Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils. Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?”
Of course, by filling the Christmas table with holly wreaths (symbolizing the pagan Holly king, fertility etc.), crackers (containing trivial gifts akin to those of Saturnalia), along with plenty of alcohol (for the ‘silly’ season), one has to wonder just what everyone is really celebrating and toasting.
BTW: How did you set-up your WordPress site? Is this the ‘blog’ version, or the ‘website’ option. I’m considering setting up one of my own, and have always liked the WordPress format.
June 10, 2016 at 11:57 am |
Hi Rupert,
Thanks for commenting. I think you mean if this is the free hosted version or the self hosted version of wordpress. This is the free hosted version. The free version I believe is for blogging the self hosted one, you can do all sort of things.
God Bless!!!
June 10, 2016 at 11:57 am |
Hi Rupert,
Thanks for commenting. I think you mean if this is the free hosted version or the self hosted version of wordpress. This is the free hosted version. The free version I believe is for blogging the self hosted one, you can do all sort of things.
God Bless!!!
November 16, 2016 at 2:44 pm |
Reblogged this on AmericanIndustrialGroup and commented:
Very interesting information…
November 16, 2016 at 2:49 pm |
Thank you!
Please also check out also our YT channel. Please share, like, and subscribe!
T&L
December 21, 2016 at 3:10 am |
On the website Bible Believers dot com they tell of the rulers of Babylon, and that the evil emperor Nimrod’s birthday was acutally on December 25th. Believers and followers (Satanists) got the Roman Catholic leaders to make the 25 of December Yeshua’s birthday. The Christ was not born on the 25th or any time during the winter at all.
December 10, 2017 at 12:36 pm |
“Many Christians today believe that Christmas is a Christian holiday.”
It is. That’s why it’s called “Christmas.”
“The fact is that people have been celebrating Christmas, long before the birth of Christ. The festivity was known then, as Saturnalia.”
Which isn’t Christmas. That’s why it’s called “Saturnalia,” not “Christmas.”
“Saturnalia was a festival in which the Romans commemorated the dedication of the temple of the god Saturn…. The Saturnalia custom is rooted in pagan & Celtic believes & traditions. ”
You just said it was Roman. Now you say it’s Celtic. Those are entirely different. Celts didn’t worship Saturn, or any Roman gods at all.
This article is just a bunch of bald assertions with no facts actually backing them up at all.
January 14, 2018 at 4:29 pm |
[…] like aka Saturnalia aka “the Purge” which you can read about here: https://thetruthandlight.wordpress.com/2008/12/25/saturnalia-the-real-roots-of-christmas/), transgenderism WERE ENCOURAGED Hence why #pizzagate […]
December 11, 2018 at 11:30 pm |
[…] Source: Saturnalia: The Real Roots of Christmas | The Truth & The Light Ministries […]